running JRSC without relay trick?

[austrian type-R]

Is it possible to run a JRSC with 310cc injectors, Cartech FMU and Apexi VAFC without the relay trick?

What are the pros and cons when doing this.


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[bobbrown]

To my knowledge, the only way to eliminate the JR IAT trick (whether it's using the relay or MAP mod) is with a stand alone fuel system. Remember, the VAFC is a piggyback unit and works in conjunction with your ECU - it does not replace its function. The VAFC modifies your fuel maps slightly, but I don't believe it allows your ECU to interpret boost readings from the MAP sensor. But seriously, you're making a built motor, you should go all the way and have custom stand alone fuel management.

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2001 GS-R, JSRC 6psi (215whp & 157trq), Kami Headers, AEM CAI, AEM Cam Gears, Tanabe G-Power Exhaust, H&R Sport Springs, Tokico 5-Way Adjustables, MufflerTech Custom Test Pipe, 17" 5-Zigen GT8 Wheels, Neuspeed Short Shifter, Neuspeed Front Strut Tower Brace, B&M FP Gauge, JR MAP Controller, Zip's O2 Simulator, Skunk2 Rear Sway Bar, Skunk2 Rear Strut Tower Brace

[austrian type-R]

oh, I?m not asking for me.

Okay, I can get rid of the relay trick, when I mount the map sensor somewhere on the intake manifold so that it can see boost.

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[rjaffey]

Which "relay trick", JR's IAT version, or my TPS version?

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[JRCivic]

The JR IAT fuel trick can be eliminated... but you must compensate for the additional heat... which means that more fuel under boost will be required. Also, some applications will in fact RETARD timing once the intake air temps begin to climb... so you may in fact lose a few ponies due to the removal of a few degrees of advance.

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[Moad'Ib]

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The JR IAT fuel trick can be eliminated... but you must compensate for the additional heat... which means that more fuel under boost will be required. Also, some applications will in fact RETARD timing once the intake air temps begin to climb... so you may in fact lose a few ponies due to the removal of a few degrees of advance.

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jim and others... i read that this relay can be removed. what I would like to know is... what are the steps to fully remove this and also is there any rewiring to be done?? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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